This is for those who really, really want to know the truth everybody claims they do, so we shall see which ones say, great work Les and those who curse me. Actually I already know.
So this is my Report.
I've had this Blog ready to go for some years with illustrations showing why/when and how you can have an image/reflection on the side of a polished metal bowl like in the Balwyn/Deepdene UFO case and showing that is why it is a hoax and how you can prove it is a hoax but nobody was interested in proving it, however I could see the hoax being groomed to support the Westall UFO Incident and so I scrapped what I had done in favour of visual images of the Balwyn UFO Case to demonstrate beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is indeed a bizarre elaborate hoax.
I have also pointed out in the past that the image/reflection on the object is what is behind the witness/camera but no " you don't know what you're talking about Les," having an image/reflection like that even at a hundred feet up and/or hundred feet away is physically impossible, this has nothing to do with me it is simple physics you can prove it, yourselves, however it is ignored by Ufologist/Believers as is the witnesses story, I don't know of another case where the witness's guesstimates and now his ability to sketch at the time are now to be ignored in favour of their own version of events, so taking the story the witness claimed at the time, how far and high he thought it was (over near a school) and where he was standing at the time is ignored by Ufologist, believers who want the object down low and near/beside the roof/chimney in order to have a image/reflection on the object, this should tell anybody blessed with logic/common sense that it is a hoax but no, "It means it's real Les" I don't know how they do it, they just want to keep flogging a dead horse.
What you are about to read is my work, just by throwing a polished metal bowl up in the air if one looks at the BP and thinks that it looks like a metal bowl thrown up into the air then Ufologist, Researchers back then should damn well have done just that, then the hoax would have died 51 years ago.
For those of you who don't know I'm the so called skeptic, the word skeptic to me means someone who has doubts about something, I'm in no doubt the Balwyn UFO case is a hoax because I/you can prove it.
I am the one that found the correct chimney on Google Earth I put a copy on Shane's website forum showing them from which direction the Balwyn photo was taken. Thinking at the time the house to the East was the family house and the chimney was their neighour's house, I found out from the council the chimney was the family home which I past on to Keith, Shane and Francois as they all know. I removed my post on Shane's site because after I gave the address out privately they were now throwing the address's around on a public board and it was turning into a circus I didn't want the owners of both properties having to deal with the strange folk. I will not be using the address's even though they are out there, I won't be the one causing the owners any grief.
The house to the East of the family home, that is, from the direction the photo was taken (the area) I'll just call it EH and the family home naturally FH.
So there we are Keith, Shane, Francois, and me communicating via email.
Unbeknown to me Paul, (Keith's partner) has gone around to the FH and taken a photo of the correct chimney which was really great but unfortunately he is at the wrong end of the house I had already shown them in which direction the photo was taken had I known Paul was going to take the photos I would have liked to see it more scientifically structured with all photos taken in one go and the farce would have been well and truly over by now.
In Paul's photo above the ridge capping is on the left side of the chimney you are at ground level so you can't see the ridge capping running along the apex and you are looking up through the trees.
In the BP you are looking from the East end to the West end, line of sight is nearly level with the ridge you are nearly level with the tops of the trees.
Logic, common sense should be telling you something isn't right.
I'm going to use my pencil here to demonstrate a visual problem. We all know how long a "new" pencil is.
The pencil is representing the ridge capping, the scrap of wood the chimney.
The chimney of course on the wrong side of the ridge this is the wrong end the same in Paul's photo.
Apart from this being the correct end looking West the point of the exercise is to show my pencil (representing the ridge of the roof) has shrunk, Huh? No nothing to do with the cold, it is a parallax error the same thing as in the BP if you were there looking along the roof line towards the West your eye/brain would make the necessary adjustments. You just need to keep that in mind.
Already you should be thinking, yikes that looks more like the BP.
Already you should be thinking, yikes that looks more like the BP.
Anyway back to it, because Paul had established contact with the owner and had taken photos I thought it fair to keep him in the loop (the group) and waited for them to get over their excitement and said something like, "Hey pssst fellas correct chimney but wrong end, you need to take the photo from the other end of the FH," Paul then tells me they are satisfied with the wrong end and what I am explaining to them is irrelevant, it is then I gave it away and watched the outcome which was predictable I have also waited to see if any Ufologist/Researcher stepped up to the plate, sadly no one has, Ufology is now definitely a religion in Australia.
It is sooooo obliviously the wrong end, not even wearing the biggest blinkers could you avoid seeing that, you would have to have a chaff bag over your head as well, I think even a believer in this case would finally see the light, so what is going on?
Well I'm thinking there maybe a sycophantic relationship going on here? Where there are those still wanting to keep the hoax alive/running, deride/ignore anybody who wants to show them it is a hoax, so long as the witness keeps saying it is true and remaining anonymous they will keep running with it. Quoting a line from James McDonald "That is kind of bad." I mean how could you not see, no matter what camera you used what angle you took it from (even standing on your head) you are never ever going to photograph the exact same image as in the BP from the wrong end.
I pointed out to them that in the witness's sketch's (more than one) that everything is happening on the left side of the chimney when the BP shows the object/bowl is on the right side of the chimney as you see on Paul's and Keith's page they will fix that as well. That is kind of bad.
This sketch above dated 7/5/67., (The two sketch's above are from 16. Barry Greenwood 1966 report.) As you can see this is another completely new sketch in 67, proportionally different from the one above yet telling the same bizarre story, standing to the extreme north of the garden and the object seen on the left side of the chimney, bit of a worry.
I used the double ended arrow line to point out where the witness claimed he was standing (his X mark), showing that anywhere along the double ended arrow line at the wrong end you would see the left side of the chimney and you don't do you in the BP? I put it to you all, where he put his X mark was so he could be seen from those working in the kitchen.
At the wrong end everything is happening on the left side of the chimney if you look back from the East to the West the object is on the correct side of the chimney as in the BP. Yeah, I said it was bizarre.
Even the science that Dr Berson was suppose to have done is weird as well, to be fair I don't see his name on anything, at the wrong end if you take the measurement 76.6 feet from the chimney where Paul was standing (incidentally he could not move back any further because of the boundary fence) puts you in next door (west) in the neighbours yard or measuring the chimney from the correct end (east) puts you in the pond/lake, measurements were suppose to have been taken of the property didn't Dr Berson check his findings out at the property, didn't anybody do a followup?
Actually at the wrong end standing where the witness said he was at the time he took the photo you wouldn't see the chimney at all in the photo you would be looking up over the study/kitchen/bedroom extension along the north side of the FH,( refer to sketch) in other words you would be photographing/looking at the roof of the extensions, no chimney would be in the photo at all and another kicker is if the object was roughly at 400 yards away and 300 feet up which the witness is happy with back then, you are too close to the extensions, that is if the extensions were two story back then to be able to see the, err, event over the roof you would have to be in the property next door (West) of the FH.
White arrow pointing to extensions, study roof I think with kitchen/bedroom behind this is over where the photo was claimed to have been taken you can see how high it is, even if they added the second story later this house has very high ceilings meaning if they were single story extensions back in 66 the apex of the roof would still be what was photographed not the chimney, orange arrow pointing out the correct chimney at the Wrong End.
So let's see this get explained away, are you all ready?
A near scale model of the main part of the roof and correct chimney in the BP. You will have to use your imagination a bit and include the ridge capping, I knocked the model up out of scrap.
Paul's Photo at the wrong end where the BP is claimed to have been taken.
Same end as Paul's photo, wrong end
Let's stop here a moment and ponder, Scientist's/Ufologist's/Researcher's suppose to have visited the FH, measurements were suppose to have been taken so there they are standing on the spot in the garden where the photo was suppose to have been taken and most likely with BP photo in hand and somehow no one notices it doesn't match the BP.??????????????????????????????????????????
Look familiar?
The tree is my neighbours across the road I left it in for fun.
As I pointed out to the gang there is absolutely no reason in the world why you cannot take exactly the same photo as the BP, the chimney hasn't moved nor has the house what needs to move is the camera person to the east end of the FH they will discover they have to elevate the camera and/or themselves in order to be able to see the chimney from the east end, they will also be close to the house when doing this because the trees are full grown in the yard and are in the way, once they have the photo proportionally matching the BP they then need to turn a 180 degrees and it is at that height and line of sight (camera lens) somewhere along that line of sight the photo was taken further east, as I said the trees are in the way now but one could work it out.
As it is known I cannot get down to Melbourne to take the photo myself at the correct end of the house however there is no need to now the model I knocked up is good enough to get my point across.
Just a few more incidentals I have waited for soooo long for some one to realize the tops of trees you see in the BP (in front of roof tiles) are the foliage tips of the willow trees, drawn in the sketches at the east end of the house there is no trees in front of the garage in 66.
Paul's 66 aerial photo would confirm that, what would be interesting to know is there anything at the east end of the property on or near the pond/lake or close to the dividing fence high enough to stand up on at the time, failing that on or near the patio of the EH.
This is a continuation I've realized I could use the model of the roof to demonstrate the theory put forward by those who have dismissed the witness's account he put forward at the time and replaced it with their own which is also weird, in reality the chimney is about a 100 feet away from the camera the object is close to the camera and is not that high above the chimney just looks that way, the camera is up high so you can see along the ridge and see the complete chimney at the other end of the FH, however dismiss what I have just said and have a look at what they want to put forward.
The moment an object like that in the BP is above all other objects on the ground which I gather you are all happy with, that is it is above the chimney then the image/reflection always forms a half sphere or half a circle starting at the rim and curving out and back the rim in line with the observer, if the object stayed still in the sky and the observer walked under it and out the other side the image/reflection follows the observer of whatever is around him/her as they move from one side to the other when the object is above everything else it compresses everything from horizon to horizon a montage including the observer into a half circle as I have explained.
There would be no cusp which you all consider to be the chimney, the object has to be close and lower in order to break out of the half circle and form a cusp which I now will demonstrate.
In the photo above I have placed the camera roughly where you will all be happy with where you think the object is in relation to the chimney further to the left further back is not going to matter when I explain this.
To a camera, a sphere, flat mirror a reflection, the image/reflection is always flat if you look at a google map any aerial photo of whatever it is always flat as paper it is your brain telling you that a tree, house, chimney are erect, as you see the chimney doesn't stand out it is part of the roof the image/reflection on the object would be everything down on the ground compressed to the rim in a half circle.
There is only one way you can get the image/reflection as you see on the BP object and that is to be level or lower than the chimney with only the sky in the background.
If there was a tree behind the model chimney then that will be the cusp if you kept rising up higher and higher so that now you have other homes/ground behind the chimney then the chimney just blends in with the background and will not cause your cusp. As I've said I'm pretty sure the image/reflection on the object in the BP is the EH with a tree rising above the roof on the single story section of the house no chimney's involved.
As I have said all along it is not my opinion my theory, it is simple physics logic/common sense.
As I pointed out to the gang there is absolutely no reason in the world why you cannot take exactly the same photo as the BP, the chimney hasn't moved nor has the house what needs to move is the camera person to the east end of the FH they will discover they have to elevate the camera and/or themselves in order to be able to see the chimney from the east end, they will also be close to the house when doing this because the trees are full grown in the yard and are in the way, once they have the photo proportionally matching the BP they then need to turn a 180 degrees and it is at that height and line of sight (camera lens) somewhere along that line of sight the photo was taken further east, as I said the trees are in the way now but one could work it out.
As it is known I cannot get down to Melbourne to take the photo myself at the correct end of the house however there is no need to now the model I knocked up is good enough to get my point across.
The Photo above is a bit messy somewhere between the two red lines you will get the same image as roof and chimney in the BP the vertically red line you could use a very long selfie stick and camera or a drone just be on the right side of the ridge/apex a little up and down and left and right, bingo but you are too close to get the right perspective you have to move away from the house the BP was taken anywhere along and between the two red lines it could have been taken at the boundary fence and I haven't ruled out the EH.
The C is the camera facing west and the O is the objects position in front of the camera as I said the photo was taken somewhere along there.
The trees are in the way now full grown the two yellow lines represent the sun early in the morning summer, (discussed on the other page) the cusp as it was called on the object could either be the the steep gable roof on the two story part of the EH or the first tree (a pointed cypress/conifer type of tree) to rise above the roof top on the single story part of the house that's the one I lean towards, remember the reflection /image on the object is what is around/behind the camera the green arrow could have been the first tree/part to pop up over the roof.
The other thing to get your heads around is the camera is up high enough to see most of the chimney the only part you can't see is where the chimney actually comes out through the roof because the ridge on the right side blocks your view. This is what puzzle me all those years ago if this photo was taken at ground/garden level you wouldn't be able to see the chimney at all or not that much of it.
The C is the camera facing west and the O is the objects position in front of the camera as I said the photo was taken somewhere along there.
The trees are in the way now full grown the two yellow lines represent the sun early in the morning summer, (discussed on the other page) the cusp as it was called on the object could either be the the steep gable roof on the two story part of the EH or the first tree (a pointed cypress/conifer type of tree) to rise above the roof top on the single story part of the house that's the one I lean towards, remember the reflection /image on the object is what is around/behind the camera the green arrow could have been the first tree/part to pop up over the roof.
The other thing to get your heads around is the camera is up high enough to see most of the chimney the only part you can't see is where the chimney actually comes out through the roof because the ridge on the right side blocks your view. This is what puzzle me all those years ago if this photo was taken at ground/garden level you wouldn't be able to see the chimney at all or not that much of it.
Just a few more incidentals I have waited for soooo long for some one to realize the tops of trees you see in the BP (in front of roof tiles) are the foliage tips of the willow trees, drawn in the sketches at the east end of the house there is no trees in front of the garage in 66.
Paul's 66 aerial photo would confirm that, what would be interesting to know is there anything at the east end of the property on or near the pond/lake or close to the dividing fence high enough to stand up on at the time, failing that on or near the patio of the EH.
This is a continuation I've realized I could use the model of the roof to demonstrate the theory put forward by those who have dismissed the witness's account he put forward at the time and replaced it with their own which is also weird, in reality the chimney is about a 100 feet away from the camera the object is close to the camera and is not that high above the chimney just looks that way, the camera is up high so you can see along the ridge and see the complete chimney at the other end of the FH, however dismiss what I have just said and have a look at what they want to put forward.
They want the image/reflection on the object to be that of the chimney I assume then the object has to be little further back/away from the chimney in order to align the cusp they consider to be the chimney with the camera, please correct me if I'm wrong.
I've said all along that it is impossible to have a image/reflection like that on an object that is a sphere shaped object in this case a half a sphere and not a perfect half sphere at that.
The moment an object like that in the BP is above all other objects on the ground which I gather you are all happy with, that is it is above the chimney then the image/reflection always forms a half sphere or half a circle starting at the rim and curving out and back the rim in line with the observer, if the object stayed still in the sky and the observer walked under it and out the other side the image/reflection follows the observer of whatever is around him/her as they move from one side to the other when the object is above everything else it compresses everything from horizon to horizon a montage including the observer into a half circle as I have explained.
There would be no cusp which you all consider to be the chimney, the object has to be close and lower in order to break out of the half circle and form a cusp which I now will demonstrate.
In the photo above I have placed the camera roughly where you will all be happy with where you think the object is in relation to the chimney further to the left further back is not going to matter when I explain this.
To a camera, a sphere, flat mirror a reflection, the image/reflection is always flat if you look at a google map any aerial photo of whatever it is always flat as paper it is your brain telling you that a tree, house, chimney are erect, as you see the chimney doesn't stand out it is part of the roof the image/reflection on the object would be everything down on the ground compressed to the rim in a half circle.
There is only one way you can get the image/reflection as you see on the BP object and that is to be level or lower than the chimney with only the sky in the background.
If there was a tree behind the model chimney then that will be the cusp if you kept rising up higher and higher so that now you have other homes/ground behind the chimney then the chimney just blends in with the background and will not cause your cusp. As I've said I'm pretty sure the image/reflection on the object in the BP is the EH with a tree rising above the roof on the single story section of the house no chimney's involved.
As I have said all along it is not my opinion my theory, it is simple physics logic/common sense.
To be continued....